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title: "Will you own your next computer, or rent it? | Raffi Krikorian (CTO, Mozilla)"
description: "In this episode we talk with Raffi Krikorian, CTO of Mozilla, in a broad conversation that touches on the role that open source — and our own values as builders — will play both in creating the new computer, and deciding who truly controls it. Co-hosts Stephen Hood and Rupert Manfredi also discuss their startup’s new product, https://television.run, as well as HTML artifacts and… the pope? Links: * https://www.linkedin.com/in/rkrikorian/ (LinkedIn) * https://newsletter.ownersnotrenters.com/ (Raffi's Substack) * https://television.run, the missing GUI for personal agents * https://www.mozilla.ai/ * https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/ * https://openclaw.ai/ * https://x.com/trq212/status/2052809885763747935 (by Thariq Shihipar) * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB9lRdM5eO0 (Geoffrey Litt and Max Schoening's podcast) * https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html (Pope Leo's encyclical on AI)"
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# Will you own your next computer, or rent it? | Raffi Krikorian (CTO, Mozilla)

**Speaker:** [Stephen Hood](https://www.speakrphone.com/stlhood.md)
**Date:** 2026-06-03

In this episode we talk with Raffi Krikorian, CTO of Mozilla, in a broad conversation that touches on the role that open source — and our own values as builders — will play both in creating the new computer, and deciding who truly controls it.

Co-hosts Stephen Hood and Rupert Manfredi also discuss their startup’s new product, https://television.run, as well as HTML artifacts and… the pope?

Links:

\* https://www.linkedin.com/in/rkrikorian/ (LinkedIn)
\* https://newsletter.ownersnotrenters.com/ (Raffi's Substack)
\* https://television.run, the missing GUI for personal agents
\* https://www.mozilla.ai/
\* https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/
\* https://openclaw.ai/
\* https://x.com/trq212/status/2052809885763747935 (by Thariq Shihipar)
\* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB9lRdM5eO0 (Geoffrey Litt and Max Schoening's podcast)
\* https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html (Pope Leo's encyclical on AI)

## Topics
- open-source software
- Personal Computing Tools
- Mozilla Corporation
- artificial intelligence
- Computer ownership models

## Resources
- [YouTube - Will you own your next computer, or rent it? | Raffi Krikorian \(CTO, Mozilla\)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj9LmG6zfg0)